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Old Feb 23, 2009, 02:18 PM // 14:18   #21
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Rits definitely , followed by paragons and mesmers.
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #22
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I think Paragons are the least used. Rits have both spirits, and while they aren't particularly good people seem to think otherwise, and are from factions.

Mesmers probably are a bit more used than rits and paras.
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50   #23
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rits, quite easily
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #24
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PvE Monking is only boring when playing with henchmen and heroes. With humans it's far more interesting. Not as fun as PvP monking mind you, but still fairly fun.
I get you. PvE Monking with all of the huge defense around (SY and such) just turns the game into a redbar-fest, and the variants of the basic defense of any team (healing, protecting) has become so passive you don't even have to turn your monitor on anymore. You don't have to take them, but not taking them is like not taking a gun into a modern war. Why not take advantages?

I'd have to say Ritualist, or Paragon. Reason? How it looks. Cosmetics rule over the minds of a lot of this games players I imagine, and I'm not going to conduct an experiment on it just to learn what people do and where and such.
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27   #25
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yea this has been asked a bunch of times.
look at the prices of runes, that pretty much tells you how much people like and play a certain class in pve. rt, me, and para are all dirt cheap and go along with the general concensus. not many play them. on the other hand, theres millions of warriors and monks. most people play them as their main
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #26
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If the answer has any importance to people, poll it. Poll can be broken down into 3 categories to reflect PvP, PvE, and farming. In each category, list all 12 classes. Everyone selects what they currently have and regularly play. If you have all and play all regularly, mark all of them. If you have all, but only play 2, mark the 2 played. "Mules" don't count as they are not "played". Regular play can be defined as, equal time played on each in a given time period. Logging on to just chat with friends, can't really be classed as playing.

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I see almost equal numbers of all classes campaign specific in the beginning areas of each campaign. As I reach "higher leveled" areas, the classes that deal less direct or spike damage are fewer. It tends to take a special touch to direct your H/H, when you are not a damage dealer. Many people give up on classes like Mesmer, Rit, and in my case, a pure smite monk (not support, but damage dealing).
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 01:58 AM // 01:58   #27
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Paragons for their "skirts"

Mesmers for their "PvE suckiness"

Rits because most ppl try spirit spamming and realize how sh*t it is.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 11:09 AM // 11:09   #28
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Depends a bit on how you measure.

For fair measurement I'd say exclude farming (team)builds. And look at PvE (since this is Campfire). Only a very limited part of the community would be involved in Farming I'd say.
I think this would make Ritualists, Mesmers and Monks the least played professions.
Assassin would see some usage but mainly the 'I want to be ninja' players.
And I'm assuming that most players will play either solo or in small 'random' groups.
Doesn't have to be PUG, but can also be random players from a guild/alliance.

The reason? Playing monk with H&H is both boring and annoying.
And playing with randoms means you get the blame for a lot of things you can't help.
Mesmers are fun to play but not very effective against large groups (without CoP/VoR).
Many players want to see big damage numbers on the screen, not disabling some foe that's dead in 5 seconds anyway.
The main disadvantage of the Ritualist in my opinion is the static positioning of the spirits. Rt is fun, but not when you want to move accros a field fast. I know there is a PvE skill for that but not all players will have that. They have several very decent spells but those depend on the way of play and the team.
Assassins are squishy and can't in general be used to hold aggro (there are exceptions).
They are the class to move in, kill a target and move out.
Not really something you'd like to do in PvE because of imbalanced groups.

Considering the above I'd say the least profession in PvE is the Ritualist.
Second would be monk or ritualist, fourth would be assassin.

Once we take farming builds into concideration things will change a lot.
Monks will be there, solo, duo or in full teams.
Assassins are used a lot. Mesmers somewhat with CoP.
Only role left out will be Rt.

I think the 'winner' would be Ritualist in both cases
the 330 hp vwk rit build on pvxwiki > most of the 55 monk farming builds you can think of and a 105 hp vwk rit build somewhere on GWG Forum > many SoA Monk Builds.

if you were to ask me, rits are the 2nd best farmers, right below assassins.

back to topic.

the most underplayed class in my opinions PvE wise would be dervishes.

reason being:
1)a dervish isn't a core class.
2)assassins and rits are awesome farmers.
3)paragons are way better at PvE than a dervish.
4)dervish can't farm as fast/well as other professions cause it requires you to hit. a normal blind/anti melee hex would render you uselses.

the most underplayed class for PvP CURRENTLY would be either a paragon or a dervish. Monks, Warriors, Rangers, Rits can be seen alot at high end PvP. Mesmers, Necros, Eles, Assassins can be seen alot at low end PvP ( i'm not saying you dont see them at high end pvp. just not as much ). 2 professions left = dervishes or paragons. idk but i dont see those 2 much anyway.

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Old Feb 24, 2009, 12:09 PM // 12:09   #29
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the 330 hp vwk rit build on pvxwiki > most of the 55 monk farming builds you can think of and a 105 hp vwk rit build somewhere on GWG Forum > many SoA Monk Builds.

if you were to ask me, rits are the 2nd best farmers, right below assassins.
I know Rt's make good farmers but many people don't see that.
But /Rt works almost as good with many professions.
I even tried Me/Rt somewhere else and it worked good enough for me.
So /Rt for VwK and some means to stay alive and get energy and you are done.

It's not about how good some profession is for farming, it's how much it's used. And I think Rt's are good but are not really used much.
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Old Mar 01, 2009, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #30
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Just by going to what I see in outposts I would say it is Rit, followed by Mes.
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Old Mar 02, 2009, 11:48 PM // 23:48   #31
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the 330 hp vwk rit build on pvxwiki > most of the 55 monk farming builds you can think of and a 105 hp vwk rit build somewhere on GWG Forum > many SoA Monk Builds.

if you were to ask me, rits are the 2nd best farmers, right below assassins.

back to topic.

the most underplayed class in my opinions PvE wise would be dervishes.

reason being:
1)a dervish isn't a core class.
2)assassins and rits are awesome farmers.
3)paragons are way better at PvE than a dervish.
4)dervish can't farm as fast/well as other professions cause it requires you to hit. a normal blind/anti melee hex would render you uselses.

the most underplayed class for PvP CURRENTLY would be either a paragon or a dervish. Monks, Warriors, Rangers, Rits can be seen alot at high end PvP. Mesmers, Necros, Eles, Assassins can be seen alot at low end PvP ( i'm not saying you dont see them at high end pvp. just not as much ). 2 professions left = dervishes or paragons. idk but i dont see those 2 much anyway.

What you think is the best class isn't relevant here ...Paragons aren't better than dervishes only they are by far the strongest class PVE wise ...however playing as an imbagon is boring hence they are not very popular ..

The price of runes is perhaps the best measure ...
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Old Mar 02, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #32
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What you think is the best class isn't relevant here ...Paragons aren't better than dervishes only they are by far the strongest class PVE wise ...however playing as an imbagon is boring hence they are not very popular ..

The price of runes is perhaps the best measure ...
Necro's soul reaping is pretty d*mn good....
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Old Mar 03, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #33
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Not to say they are an incapable class, but running around in a mini skirt is not something most prefer.


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the most underplayed class in my opinions PvE wise would be dervishes.
Nightfall moar.

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Old Mar 03, 2009, 07:10 PM // 19:10   #34
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^^^ Yup ..In nightfall everyone is a Dervish .....

Necros are Godly too in PVE ..second strongest ....best damage dealers Paras decrease the damage everyone in your team takes by 90% ALL the time nothing compares to that ..
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Old Mar 05, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #35
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Rit, Mesmer, and Paragon, I'd say.

I must admit I don't really play with my Rit anymore, though I've fallen in love with Mesmer recently.
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Old Mar 06, 2009, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #36
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Rit, Mesmer, and Paragon, I'd say.
Mesmers lack popularity in PvE. However, they hold a higher supremacy in PvP than most.
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Old Mar 07, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53   #37
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Ritualist and Paragon. I saw lots of Mesmers nowadays.
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Old Mar 07, 2009, 12:38 PM // 12:38   #38
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Mesmers are like the Gods of PVP ....I hate it when i see one ...regardless of what my class maybe ..
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Old Mar 07, 2009, 02:22 PM // 14:22   #39
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Ritualists deffo ... Paragon are all over the place at least in organized HM teams.
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Old Mar 19, 2009, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #40
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ritualists + mesmers are the two professioned chars i rearly c in pve
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